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Tuesday, November 22, 2016

JUSTIN DUNK: FRANKLIN IS RIDERS' "PLAN A"

By: Justin Dunk
3DownNation.com

Everyone in Riderville has full attention on Chris Jones and Darian Durant as extension negotiations – and tactics – continue.

Until the situation plays itself out each move will be headline news in Saskatchewan.

There is one major factor that could play into the entire quarterback scenario with the Riders: James Franklin. The 25-year-old is under contract with Edmonton for the 2017 season at a $55,000 base salary.

A theory from sources around the league is that Jones is waiting to see whether he can get Franklin from the Eskimos, which could determine what happens with Durant.

If Jones, whose franchise inquired about the up-and-coming signal caller back in June, can make a trade with Eskies general manager Ed Hervey to get Franklin, he could move forward without Durant and let him leave town. Conversely, if a swap cannot be agreed upon – Hervey will make if difficult and demand a high price tag – then Jones turns his attention back to getting Durant extended before the February free agent deadline.

June was certainly not the last time the Riders had discussions with Edmonton about a deal for Franklin. Sources say as recently as near the end of the regular season Saskatchewan initiated conversations surrounding a possible barter for the Eskimos’ young pivot.

Jones has had an affinity for Franklin since spotting the Missouri product at a free agent tryout camp in Nebraska. Edmonton offered him a contract before the 2015 season and that allowed Jones to get an up close look at the six-foot-two, 225-pounder for an entire year, including two starts. So the Riders’ vice president, general manager and head coach knows Franklin well. And acquiring Franklin means Jones could save funds at the quarterback position to allocate elsewhere.

That’s why Franklin could play a major role in whether or not Durant puts a green and white uniform on at new Mosaic Stadium.

http://3downnation.com/2016/11/21/james-franklin-x-factor-in-riders-negotiations-with-darian-durant/

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

You just have to have that Gut feeling that Jones will get what he wants and Franklin will be the starter here next season.

Anonymous said...

Lol if you think the eskimos are going to do anything that would help the riders out even slightly you are insane. The Eskimos would trade him to the other team the the night before every rider game if they thought it would hurt Jones.

Anonymous said...

You can forget that deal.
Hervey won't be trading Franklin to the Riders after the crap Jones pulled on him last year.
If just Jones had gone is one thing but to take all those assistants with him was a bit much.

Anonymous said...

Oh ya good luck with that!!

Anonymous said...

So, we are going to get rid of a proven qb, that has taken us 3x to a Grey Cup? For a guy that makes no more than $50,000/year and is unproven?

Franklin may be the future but DD should be our starter and the one to open the new stadium.

Get the deal done with DD now!

IMAGIRL

Albert Patenaude said...

If this is Jones plan A I think his time in Riderville could shorter than planned. Coaches always get a free pass their first year but if the Riders lay another egg in 2017 who knows ... I like Franklin but he's a prospect remember Drew Willy? Darian Durant is the Riders best option for winning. He's already offered to take a pay cut. Pay the man and sign Franklin as plan B.

Anonymous said...

Most of you guys were running Justin Dunk into the ground for previously spouting unfounded rumours and innuendo, now you are taking what he is saying as gospel? Wow...

Rod S in Saskatoon

Anonymous said...

Don't kid yourself, Hervey will trade Franklin to the Riders if he gets his asking price. I have no idea what the ask is, but if it involves any starting Canadians and/or high draft picks then we are screwed. Our Canadian depth was already poor when Jones took over (thanks Taman!!) and I can see Jones mortgaging our future to get Franklin. Jones "might" be a good head coach (that jury is still out after a losing season filled with many questionable coaching decisions) but he was definitely fleeced by other GMs in trades last year.

Anonymous said...

Remember when Darian Durant was a project???? Or was he instantly an immortal Grey Cup champion / Future HOF'er? Can't seem to recall....

Anne Onomys

Anonymous said...

Durant was a project??

Anonymous said...

WTF! A 25 year old to replace a 35 year old? Look who is leading a team into the Grey Cup this week - Old Man Henry Burris age 41! Durant should have a good 5 years left in the tank (like Hank).

George Porge said...

I don't think it even matters what Jones is willing to offer for Franklin - Ed Hervey has been building a long-term contender in the Eskimos - and that means having a very capable, ready backup. Franklin may be a Bo Levi Mitchell in waiting (remains to be seen), but he is in the same place in his career as Bo was in 2012.

The Riders have *nothing* to offer right now, and Jones burned his bridge with Ed Hervey in the off-season. I'm sure Jones has spent the season putting a bug in Hervey's ear, but I'm also pretty sure that those phone calls were very short and ended with some colourful version of "pound sand".

Anonymous said...

If nothing else this is giving Dunk some press. Which is what he wants.

Anonymous said...

Durant is a hall of famer? Sure him and Kevin Glenn will go in on the same day. I don't think Burris was a hall of famer up without the late career burst in ottawa... I like DD and he has risen to occasion is a big way in the playoffs but he hasn't been the best QB in the league 2 years in a row ever. That is the bare minimum starting point for a hall of famer.

Anonymous said...

Franklin yes Durant no. Young qbs can't lead a team ( Jennings, Mitchell, lulay, collaros, Reilly) just 5 guys that were backups that nobody new that became starters to lead their teams. We have to give a qb a chance to play and grow. Wally buino and Kent Austin are famous for playing young unknown qbs. Durant got a chance to play because of Austin. But Durants money demands are unrealistic for his abilities and skill set. He isn't a top 6 qb. Let's rebuild this thing right and rider fans that means a 3 year plan with 1 year gone. I'm sorry but that's reality.

Anonymous said...

I think the deal will get done. It was already rumored about last year and us giving up St. John. Maybe it is a 1st or 2nd rd pick this year. Either way Franklin is leaving Edmonton after next year so why not get something in return?

Anonymous said...

Franklan on his way to the Riders. Gaedocsh, other player/s to be determined along with draft pick/s returned the other way to Alberta's capital. Joans/Hearvey on good terms, it's all in the name of sound solid business return at the end of the day.

Anonymous said...

If they don't get rid of him now while he is under contract...he will walk next year as a free agent and they will not get a thing for him. His value to get something in return is high right now. Next year he can go where ever he wants and Edmonton gets nothing.

Anonymous said...

This whole article is based on "A theory from sources around the league" and Rider fans instantly start running around like their hair is on fire.

Darian said he wants to be back. Chris Jones has said he wants Darian back. Contracts take time and this one will get there.

Be smarter than that!

Anonymous said...

Nothing to offer? What about a first overall pick from this year and over abundance of potential all star receivers (Holley, Roosevelt, Edwards etc) Edmonton will be looking for a receiver as they are most likely going to loose Walker.

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John Knight said...

Note, you will NEVER see Franklin in Sask and anyway he hasn't shown he is the next coming. Just sign Durant and let him teach QBs that we develop and give them playing time when we are ahead or behind in games instead of letting the starter fatten his stats

Mike said...

I think thats what Jones wants. I think he wants Durant and Franklin with Franklin eventually starter sooner than later.

In this scenario Durant would get to open the season in the stadium and the moment he under performs or gets hurt, Franklin goes in.

Then in Jones perfect world Franklin lights it up and Durant finishes the season on the bench.

Mike D

Anonymous said...

I agree he may have 5 good years left as well but if a 25 year becomes available and is the real deal although the jury is still out, you do it.

Anonymous said...

All players are available if the price is right. We have plenty of talent that would be good trade bait.

We were pretty raw this past year but you could see the potential. I would be very very surprised to see a repeat of this year again next year.

Anonymous said...

I think looking back if Jones had to do it all over again, he'd pull the trigger on that trade this time.

Anonymous said...

No one is running around with their hair on fire. It just started a fun discussion with varied opinions.

GWil26 said...

One simple Wikipedia read on Franklin you learn the guy spent half of each of his last two seasons at Missouri injured... wake up people.

And to the poster above, Kevin Glenn will in all likelihood make it into the HoF one day.

George Porge said...

"Franklin...hasn't shown he is the next coming."

That's what Rider fans were saying about Bo Levi Mitchell three short years ago.

George Porge said...

"Nothing to offer? What about a first overall pick from this year and over abundance of potential all star receivers (Holley, Roosevelt, Edwards etc)"

Hate to break it to you, but the Riders don't get the first overall pick from this year. That pick is actually going to the Bombers (Toronto "earned" that pick, and traded it to Winnipeg as part of the Drew Willy deal). So that is not something the Riders can offer.

As far as "potential all star receivers" go, the group of unproven single-year sort-of successful receivers you have to offer isn't really anything more than 8 other teams in the league can offer. Further, thanks to the Great Purge of Toronto and Montreal, there are a few pretty good receivers available on the free agent market that could fill Walker's spot without the Esks having to trade anyone (let alone their star backup).

I know that common thought is "trade him or get nothing next year", but that thinking only works for teams that are not contenders in that current year (kid yourself not - the 2017 Eskimos will still be one of the top teams in the league) and thus may not be able to utilize their player effectively. Hervey is going to need a good backup behind Reilly next year, and if he's following the example set by other good teams (you know, like BC and Calgary), Hervey might even offer Franklin a pretty generous contract extension this off season.

Anonymous said...

NO...NO...NO

Anonymous said...

Jones can kiss his Head Coaching career goodbye should he trade for Franklin and let Durant go as well. Reynolds would likely be pushed out the door at the same time.

Durant should not give into someone who has proved his only a one-time wonder, and is fleecing the Riders and Rider Nation.

Hold Darrian, you have given enough.

Anonymous said...

Slam DUNK again from this guy

Mr. Know-it-all said...

The best plan is to sign Durant to a 2 year deal in 2017, sign free agent Franklin to a nice 3 year contract in 2018, back-loaded, when he is a free agent and wanting to go to a team to be a starter (which he won't be in Edmonton) and do like Ottawa, have the two compete for the starter for 2018 and in 2019 Franklin takes over from Durant when his contract expires and he is ready to coach somewhere.

Anonymous said...

Hervey can't over play his hand.

Franklin has 1 more year that he is under contract and then he'll be a free agent. You don't get anything back for losing a free agent.

A swap of 1st round picks this year or Riders 1st next year may get it done.

Keith Pottruff said...

Think about it this way, would the team be better 3 or 5 years down the road with Franklin or Durant? The Stamps have shown the door to Burris and then sat his replacement on the bench in favour of Bo Levi. And how did they do this year.

Remember that the Riders added picks this year in the deal to trade Fulton for example. I'm a DD fan, but I'm also a fan of the Riders winning.

Anonymous said...

We have so very few leaders on this team right now. DD is THE leader on this team. We cannot afford to lose him. Get him re-signed and find a backup or groom one of the guys we have to take over in future years. But, right now, with this team in the situation it is in, we cannot lose any more leaders. We lost too many at the beginning of this season and their leadership was not replaced.

Anonymous said...

Just for the uniformed, 1. Hervey will not let Franklin go for nothing but won't give him away for little, his value is relatively high and earlier in the season Hervey wanted St.John and a 1st overall so he won't go lower then that. 2. You figure Edmonton is going to take receivers for hhim...think again, sure Walker is going to the NFL but we have a full load of good receivers rookie and veteran...by the way we signed Walker's replacement close to the end of the season and his name is HAZELTON.

donna Campbell said...

Sign Durant for 2017 then go after free agent Franklin in 2018.

Anonymous said...

Donna Campbell Franklin won't go to free agency, so you better trade for him before other suitors do...sask won't get the easy signing of free agency in a year. Brains^^^^