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Tuesday, March 1, 2016

MURPHY ON KEITH PRICE, CHRIS GETZLAF

Saskatchewan Roughriders Assistant V.P. of Player Personnel John Murphy made his weekly appearance on 620 CKRM's SportsCage on Monday, updating fans on the club's off-season moves.  Speaking from New Orleans, Murphy discussed the status of free agent quarterback Keith Price (who was with the team last year) and the decision to allow receiver Chris Getzlaf to go to free agency, ultimately leading to his signing with the Edmonton Eskimos on Thursday.

ON KEITH PRICE

JM:  What Keith wants to do is have the option to see where the best decision for him will be.  The discussions that we've had about Keith coming to our minicamp in Florida is that the ball is kind of in both of our courts to decide that.  Closer to the event, that's when we'll make that decision.  That leaves him open to discussions of possibly playing in that spring league, or discussions possibly on does he want to go throw for another CFL team to gauge of what they think of him?

We want to lay hands on as many of these guys as possible, see them face-to-face, with our own coaches and sometimes how that's received by a player.  At first I think it was a little more shocking like, "Hey don't you know who I am?" type thing and now it's progressed more towards our side of the picture of him and his agent seeing it has nothing to do with what he's done to date, or nothing to do with taking it the wrong way.  Our staff wants to see him prior to signing him so that we're not investing in him for the wrong reasons and he's not coming to camp with the wrong expectations.  If he's the right fit, he'd be the guy.  If he's not the right guy, at least he's not being signed and then released sometime in April.


ON RELEASING OR NOT SIGNING VETERANS THIS WINTER

JM:  Number one, first and foremost, with every one of these guys, we addressed them directly where they stood with us, what our plan would be, how they could return if there's an interest in returning, and it's a two-way street.  To want to accept what we're saying, things could have gone one direction.  Clearly each one of these guys felt like there was a different opportunity available to them, and to not want to re-negotiate with us, to not listen and look at other options on how they could return.  Each found an option that could be equal or better that what he spoke about.

With Chris Getzlaf, he had an off-season roster bonus that we gave him.  We continued to process and look at where he's at from a health perspective and our decision was that we had to make sure our starting Canadian ratio players were 100% ready to compete come Day 1 of training camp.  And my opinion, along with our staff, was that he was going to need time throughout the whole off-season to get to where he's 100%.  We're all hopeful that occurs because he's a good player to have in our league and has had an amazing career to date.

Let's not forget there was a time and place where he was something else other than a Rider (in Hamilton in 2007).  And now there's a time and place where he's moving on to be something else other than a Rider.  I think fans would be far less happy to come up with a formula of building a roster to say we hadn't looked at the medical stuff and true evaluation of where he's at as a player and then cut short during training camp at that position because it'll take some extra time to get to 100%.  There's no time to make those second guesses later on.  You can't be fine with going to training camp and saying 'We were hoping he'd be 100%' and be happy because the fans wanted Getzlaf back in a uniform.  If he isn't, then say 'Well I hope everybody gives us a break because we signed a fan favourite'.  You and I all know that's not gonna be how business works.  You can't run a season off your heart.  You have to run it by what's in front of you.

We wish Chris nothing but the best.  He's had a tremendous career with Saskatchewan but at this time and place, going after him would've meant sacrificing someone else at a Canadian ratio position that was 100% healthy.  A lot of turning this team around will be through competition in training camp.


42 comments:

Anonymous said...

The new management team does not owe anyone anything.... including some pepole's so called favorite players. They have to do what they feel is going to give them the best chance to succeed on the field. The same people who are moaning and groaning about all the players they have let go will be yelling and screaming about the crappy team we have and they will want Murphy and Jones fired. Football is is brutal, rough sport and hard on a player's body. The average career is three or four years you can't just cannot keep players based on their past. I really appreciate what each player has done for us in the past and the success they have helpd us achieve but we did pay them for that and that was their job wasn't it? Leave Murphy and Jones do their job and the rest of us should be on their bandwagon cheering them on to bring in the best football players they can!! Is it June yet??

Darcy from Regina

Anonymous said...

Darcy, you are 100% correct. Hopefully some of the idiotic commenters read this

Anonymous said...

These guys are probably good coaches, maybe even great. Maybe they are even good evaluators of football talent. We will find that out as the season progresses. However their frequent team switches of allegiance would seem to indicate they either wear out there welcome quickly or have no sense of loyalty or respect toward organizations or people in their narcisstic climb to the top. Yes my beloved Riders needed a wholesale coaching change and probably a massive player change. That was obvious to all. But that can still happen while using respect in the process. John Chick and Weston Dressler were not treated with respect. For the past 7 or so years every Real Rider fan has appreciated those players commitment to the Riders, to their fans and the players have often indicated without reservation their appreciation for our province. Our Respect and support for them is shown by the many Chick and Dressler jerseys in the streets. Both players may have helped us return to greatness or maybe their abilities had decreased to the point where they would not of. That decision is better placed in coaches hands. This is not a rant about whether Riders should keep these players or not. But I strongly disagree with how this separation appears to of happened. Jones indicates publicly that Dressler and Chick were not interested in renegotiating there contracts. That was not the case. On the day they were released Jones indicating that the players could of signed for a lower offer. He try's to turn the fans on the players. He doesn't share how meagre their offer was. Then tweets a disparaging comment about their lack of height. A public comment similar to what a bully would use and kind of ironic as that was Dresslers Red Cross anti-bullying message as he toured our schools in the off season. Dressler was never about height, he was about heart and that was simply big enough for us, Chick became symbolic to all of us for his overcoming diabetis and his inspiration to the many kids in our province. To belittle any players is not becoming of a professional management team. To belittle star players who played hard and had earned fans respect is just not appropriate
You lose some respect for the integrity of management that treats players this way. It will for me take some of the fun out of cheering for them.
Then Murphy makes these comments about Getzlaff another Sask favourite. Can anybody decipher those comments and explain what their strategy exactly was with Getzlaff. He seems to talk in circles. Might have to hire Chambliss to interpret. Or was there a plan all along not to sign him? Why can't we release these all star players in a manner that preserves their relationship and respect with the fans. and the integrity of the team. Sadly this did not happen

Sorry for the long rant.
Tk.
A disappointed fan

Anonymous said...

I get from this that Riders medical staff weren't sure Getz was going to be 100 percent. Why sign a guy who might spend half the season or more on IR collecting a paycheque. Some think its because he is a long time Rider who is from our fair province. If that is what you think builds a winner, I have swampland in Florida to sell you. This was a smart business move.


Anonymous said...

I'm with Darcy. Go Riders Go.

Anonymous said...

Murphy told it the right way! The behaviour of a few "supposed fans" is very disrespectful and shows a downright lack of class. Considering this team has not even had it's training camp yet, some of the comments are downright ignorant and sheds this organization in bad light which it shouldn't be. The team knows his physical condition but the fools don't. There were less of the "trolls" when the team was going 3-15 last year and that too shows a lot of ignorance. This is coming from a very small group of fools who have found a soapbox for their tripe. That small fringe want the old loveable loser Riders who play in their small town. That mindset is gone and won't return. That fringe group can either get on board or find another team to cheer for, preferably a losing one since that's the area they're most comfortable with. I'm in the 99% who like the direction we're going and whole heartedly support out management team. I for one appreciate the efforts they have made and I'm willing to say it. I think a lot of others are willing to as well. The voice of idiots shouldn't be valued at all, regardless of little they actually know.

CB said...

Price really didn't show much in his time here. Not a big loss. Getzlaf on the other hand will probably put up a 900-1000 yard season for the Esks

Anonymous said...

Darcy is bang on with his comments. Disappointed fan you live in a dream world.

Trav said...

I see nothing wrong in what the Riders have done. I watch the Riders no matter who is on the team cuz their Saskatchewan's team. Jones and Murphy have a damn good resume so I back all their moves that they've made. Of course some people on here and others around the country will continue to moan about the loss of Dressler and Chick and probably Getzlaf to. GET OVER IT!!!

You don't wanna have a couple players taking a good chunk of the salary cap. If you critics wanna blame someone, blame Taman for giving the pathetic contracts.

Lemon and Capicotti should make a pretty good duo and will be more effective then Chick was the last while.

Anonymous said...

This guy may be able to find players but he is simply a blow hard. He talks to talk and makes no sense.

Anonymous said...

Commentor Tk. Im sorry but you have no idea how Chick and Dressler were treated. You are simply speculating!!!
Their Agents spoke with Jones and Murphy. They were given a fair offer to what the new regime could afford. Their agents declined the offer. Thats it.
So how is that disrespectful. The Riders could no longer afford what these men and their agents felt they were worth. From what Dressler signed for in Winnipeg. The rest of the league agreed as well.

Morgan said...

Time to grow up buddy. This is a business. Not some old timey country club. Murphy was more than loyal to calgary. He stayed there until he was offered a promotion in saskatchewan. Anyone would do what he did. Same goes for Jones. Anyone who disagrees is a liar or a complete idiot who puts the interests of their employer above their own... see how far that gets you in life. P.S.: It's no longer 1955.

Anonymous said...

You notice how the list of fan favorites shrinks and changes over time? Two months ago it was Brackenridge, Brown, Maze, Jackson ... well, where are those guys? Is it strange that no one else wants them.

Dresslers agent calls it an insult then takes an $80,000 pay cut to go to Winnipeg. Chick takes $100,000 less.

Ryan Smith didnt want to be here and Rod knows it. He talked about it how at seasons end Smith interviews felt like he was as good as gone.

I am of the boat as, who cares? It is time for fresh blood.

Anonymous said...

To anon TK, and everyone else complaining,
This happens in sports and this is the ugly side of it. Get over it. You are making it sound like this never happens. Well news flash people. What do the following hall of famers have in common: Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Payton Manning etc... They have all been cut or traded by their teams and guess what the sun came up the next day.
So get over it and support this current regime that is what true fans do! Go! Riders Go!
Ron - Saskatoon

Anonymous said...

"an off-season roster bonus" for a pending free-agent?

I don't think so.

Anonymous said...

The only way Getzlaf gets 900 yards is if he stays healthy and they use him a lot. Now in the last two seasons his production has dropped and his time on the IR has increased. He didn't make the physical and the doctors have been in contact with the Riders. You can't continue to spend good money after bad. Some popular players have had their run here and now is time to move on. This happens all the time in pro sports and the Riders are not exempt. It's time to support the team (or not) but this incessant moaning over a released player(s) is getting old. It's also very disrespectful to people who are trying to re-work this roster so that we can return to a winning club. They don't deserve the garbage being hurled their way by a few somewhat disturbed people.

Anonymous said...

Hey CB, I will take that bet! $100 says Getzlaf doesn't hit 1000 yards what do you think?

Dean said...

The rumblings on the street were Jones wanted Getzlaf to see one of his handpicked doctors down south and Getzlaf never went. Hence the no offer.

I hate to be the grammar police but please guys at least write in paragraphs. It really makes it unbearable to read.

Anonymous said...

To Rod,

One of your website pop-up ads is seriously out of date. The online advertisement "Real Cash 2016: Feds preparing to kill social security", was only true when the previous Federal Conservative government was in power (less government and phase out retirement programs). You don't need to worry about that now that the Fed Libs are in power.

In fact, the retirement age has already been returned to 65, from Harper's ridiculous idea where he made it the age of 67...

Anonymous said...

Doesn't really matter how it shook down, the players have moved on. Let's quit beating up our new management team for doing their job. Personally I feel like it's going to be a good year. Perhaps not until the second half of the season with all these new people but I'm willing to sit back and watch some entertaining football again. Last year I came very close to not caring anymore, glad that feeling is gone and optimism has returned. Change is good, let it happen.

Anonymous said...

I do not support Trump!!
I did not support Harper !!
and I do not support Jones and Murphy !!!

Its all the same !!!!!

Anonymous said...

I totally agree that it doesn't matter how it shook down. I would further suggest that Jones, O'Day and Murphy have no obligation or statutory requirement to advise or defend their actions to the nut jobs. They will be judged by their wins and losses. They have stated on numerous occasions that they are here to win games and championships. They are not here to win popularity contests and defend their every move to those who have no need to know. People don't realize what usually goes on behind the scenes in sports and for that matter in the work world.

This off season ridiculous criticism and displays of hysteria serve no logical purpose. It won't change management's minds or the direction they are going to go. You can be supportive or you can chose not to support the team. Go to some other forum to spew your venom about someone else.

The Riders are shaping up to have a real good and exciting team. With a healthy DD anything is possible this season. New stars will emerge and new fan favourites will emerge. They will be wearing green!

Anonymous said...

Hear Hear !

Anonymous said...

Spoken like a true bleeding heart pansy.

(Support your local sheriff Jones and his deputy Murphy).

Anonymous said...

Thats Getzlaf's problem. He's now a Eskimo, who cares.

Anonymous said...

People forget Chick and Dressler left the Riders to try the NFL. They didn't care if that hurt the team they did what was best for them and good for them for trying. Now our managemment staff is doing what they feel is best for the team and people are crying.....again that's sports and business!! Getzlaf got paid in full last year for not playing much and he received a bonus this spring from team. I think we treated him fair also.... move on please!!

Darcy from Regina

Anonymous said...

(Support your local sheriff Jones and his deputy Murphy).

Riders do not need a sheriff or deputy.

They need a GM and scout

this is not a farm raising cattle

Anonymous said...

It took awhile, but thanks to another article on this blog, I finally understand why exactly some people don't like the player transactions made by the current Rider management team.

It has to do with the "folksy", small town character of Rider nation and Saskatchewan. 

We are not the biggest, don't have the most resources but we'll work very hard to do the best we can. We'll also support our own as much as we can. We know who everyone in the community is and form very strong relationships with people. 

While this is a great way of life, it is not the way to run a professional football team. This small town/time attitude and it's related low expectations have resulted in exactly four championships in over 100 years, and the Riders being the perpetual laughing stock of the league. Even during the last decade, the best in team history, the record was only 81-80.

While that might be good enough for small towners/timers, it is totally pathetic. 

I understand the mentality of small town/time people very well. Low expectations, minimal ambition but they are very loyal to their friends. When a friend leaves, it hurts them personally. 

These small town/time minions could see themselves when they looked at Dressler, Chick and Getzlaf. It hurt them personally when these people moved away.

While I still visit my home town in Saskatchewan frequently and still have many friends there, would I trust any of these people to run a multi-million dollar business? Not a chance.

Do their opinions about Rider player transactions matter? Not really. These opinions are just an emotional reaction to their "friends" leaving and they don't have the intelligence to deal with change rationally. 

So the next time you see one of these people have a melt down, just remember it's not their fault they are the way they are. Smile, pat them on the head, offer some kind words, maybe some pocket change and celebrate the Riders next win.

Anonymous said...

He can retire an Eskimo now

Anonymous said...

It took awhile, but thanks to another article on this blog, I finally understand why exactly some people don't like the player transactions made by the current Rider management team.

It has to do with the "folksy", small town character of Rider nation and Saskatchewan. 

We are not the biggest, don't have the most resources but we'll work very hard to do the best we can. We'll also support our own as much as we can. We know who everyone in the community is and form very strong relationships with people. 

While this is a great way of life, it is not the way to run a professional football team. This small town/time attitude and it's related low expectations have resulted in exactly four championships in over 100 years, and the Riders being the perpetual laughing stock of the league. Even during the last decade, the best in team history, the record was only 81-80.

While that might be good enough for small towners/timers, it is totally pathetic. 

I understand the mentality of small town/time people very well. Low expectations, minimal ambition but they are very loyal to their friends. When a friend leaves, it hurts them personally. 

These small town/time minions could see themselves when they looked at Dressler, Chick and Getzlaf. It hurt them personally when these people moved away.

While I still visit my home town in Saskatchewan frequently and still have many friends there, would I trust any of these people to run a multi-million dollar business? Not a chance.

Do their opinions about Rider player transactions matter? Not really. These opinions are just an emotional reaction to their "friends" leaving and they don't have the intelligence to deal with change rationally. 

So the next time you see one of these people have a melt down, just remember it's not their fault they are the way they are. Smile, pat them on the head, offer some kind words, maybe some pocket change and celebrate the Riders next win.

Anonymous said...

Too bad that a couple of Rider hating wing-nuts have seemingly dominated this blog's comment section lately and made it into swamp of stupidity. I long for the days when we had pseudonymous posters like 'Obama' and 'The Woz' who at least attempted to craft something interesting to read. Wonder what ever happened to those guys! Oh well ....

Anonymous said...

CBC As It Happens have just had a feature on national radio on Dave Ash! It is a recording of an interview with him from 2010 where he talks about the origin of Gainer the Gopher. On now!

Anonymous said...

Hmm interesting comments . I was pro harper because the bleeding hearts are starting to get too much say IMO. It's easy to stand with your hand out but something else to go to work for your self family province country and economy. I swear the majority of the voting public is completely politically illiterate and that is dangerous.. at least in our hemisphere. I miss "Obama" on these topics cuz he'd flip flop but tell it how it is. Bottom line people working equals tax coffers full. All Trudeau has done is spend and give themselves raises and not give us the legal weed we might need to get through tough economic times ha! Trump reminds me of good Ole Ralph klien .. tell it how it is .. reel your party in cuz this is what we're doing. No bleeding hearts or contracts for your buddies friend. Should be an interesting time should he win .. something tells me he's not too interested in Justin kissing babies and selfies and maybe seeing more about trade and business and Economy in tough times. Canadians mock trump but we'll see who the stupid ones are soon enough Oh Canada

Anonymous said...

If I remember correctly Dressler and Chick both bolted to the NFL when they had an opportunity to go. Now the Riders have shown them the door. It's just the way professional sports works. You have to look out for number one.

Anonymous said...

Saskatchewan Roughriders Football Club Inc.

VP - Mr. Craig Reynolds.

VP/ GM/Head Coach/ Defensive Coordinator - Mr. Chris Jones.

Assitant VP of Player Personnel - Mr. John Murphy.

The best of the best, Canadian Football League.

Anonymous said...

hating wing-nuts have seemingly dominated this blog's comment section lately and made it into swamp of stupidity

I AGREE - EXCEPT ITS ALL SUPPORTERS OF JONES AND MURPHY !!!!!!! somehow they think that that jones is a good gm and murphy a good scout, how ludicrous !!!!

although what can you expect. these are the same people that thought CC was a great coach and harper was a good PM

so do not expect to much from these people

Anonymous said...

Darcy from Regina - The new management team does not owe anyone anything

actually you are 100% wrong. They owe the fans everything. It is the fans that own this team and gave them a job.

If the riders were a proper run team by 2016 buisness standards these guys would never have got a job - anywhere.

Anonymous said...

Don't worry people you are seeing the last time jones and murphy will be working anywhere in the cfl let alone the riders.

you can bet on it!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous I agree they do owe the fans something and they are doing what they feel they need to do to win games and fill the stadium. What basis are you questioning their buisness standards on? Hiding behind a screen and sitting on you lazy boy recliner? These guys have won everywhere they have been. How they hurting the fans so far??? If you so smart run for the Rider Board... As a 25 year plus season ticket holder and a fan I am pleased with what they have done. They had to revamp the whole salary structure on the team. The previous staff kept players around and put them on the injury list so they could get paid for the whole season... (Jamal Richardson and Taj Smith). That is not how business works!

I hope all the complainers on here buy tickets for games and actually support the team.

Darcy from Regina

Anonymous said...

Your comment bang on. Mr Reynolds please give both Jones, Murphy life time contracts as the Roughriders have now turned the corner to being a real professional sports franchise.

The Woz said...

The best era for the riders was 1965 to 1976. You must be a millenial. Check you facts bud

Anonymous said...

Is that really you? The Woz? Long time no hear you old bastard.

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